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furious cat is furious [Jul. 10th, 2009|09:08 am]
BucktownTiger, Lead Shopwrecker
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Those of you who came to my Furry Fiesta concert recall me performing a song from my Furst Album entitled "Still Me." I choked up in the middle of the song... and dedicated it to a particular fur who was on one final farewell tour, and who through the graciousness of his friends, was able to see America, and to come to Furry Fiesta.

That particular fur was num8.

Now, it turns out that all that pomp and circumstance, all that emotion invested in him by all of the kind furries in Europe and in North America, was all due to a lie.

Here is the page with the list of all the accusations and evidence against Num8. Also, thanks to Nbowa for bringing it to the attention of Shopwrecker Nation.

If all of the above is true, this is unforgivable. All I did was dedicate a song to him based on a lie. Others spent hundreds, even thousands of dollars and weeks of their time hosting him, helping him travel, throwing parties for him, etc., etc., etc., based on a lie.

All that I will say now is: hopefully this deceit does not taint the immense kindness of Shopwrecker Nation and of the greater furry family in the future.

(original post edited due to admission of guilt by the accused, to reflect an appropriate scaling-back of rhetoric)
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[User Picture]From: bucktowntiger
2009-07-10 02:31 pm (UTC)
He should have done the above-board thing and said that they were able to find a treatment for his illness after all, he's doing okay, whatever.

No. He lied. And he's still lying.

Sorry, that doesn't fly here in Shopwrecker Nation.
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From: redcardlion
2009-07-10 02:31 pm (UTC)
Ouch.

That's going to break a lot of hearts and remove a lot of faith.

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From: redcardlion
2009-07-10 02:32 pm (UTC)
But, and double commenting as usual.. I had some weird feelings about this all along.

Not enough to call it a fake.. but just a feeling that something was not right.
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[User Picture]From: aj_hyena
2009-07-10 02:36 pm (UTC)
This. I saw him on the pawpet show and thought it was extremely NICE of Yappy to do what he did... and if it's all been a lie... o.O
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[User Picture]From: jaggers
2009-07-10 02:42 pm (UTC)
yeah I'm not surprised, sadly... I kinda suspected it was odd... he didn't look or quite act like someone that was dying of cancer when I saw him at Furry Fiesta.

And to think I gave him candy from the pinata :P
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[User Picture]From: shockwave77598
2009-07-10 06:11 pm (UTC)
Yeah, I was thinking the exact same thing. But I decided that perhaps he wasn't on Chemo because it wouldn't work or something.
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[User Picture]From: keeganwolf
2009-07-10 02:52 pm (UTC)
I remember when that was going on. Briefly word was going around about hosting a meeting for him here after FF.

wow....
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From: redcardlion
2009-07-10 03:11 pm (UTC)
I would think any friends of Num8 would have to ask themselves if they really were friends at all.. or if they just fell for a character he'd created.
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[User Picture]From: tekroo
2009-07-10 02:56 pm (UTC)
I think they Furry Community should still be proud of what they were able to do even if it was for a lie. I too was once scammed for far more from a former friend that had seemingly just flipped out as the result of a midlife crisis or something. Others in the group of shareholders lost far, far more than I did. No honor at all in that. I don't let it eat at me, but I'll certainly kill the bastard if I ever catch up with him if one of many others hasn't beat me to it.
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[User Picture]From: miltjones
2009-07-10 03:14 pm (UTC)
The furry community will always have a large number of parasites and hosts. People who brag about ghosting through the entire con, sleeping in lobbies and friends' rooms, dining on free pizza and sneaking into sponsor lounges. Most of the hosts are more than happy to provide, they feel as though they're giving the gift of happiness, when they're really just wasting money and allowing selfish assholes to populate the fandom.

I've personally met a handful of both types, and I can't stand either. "Oh, I'm paying his rent and bills and buying him food because he said he sort-of kind-of likes me, because I'm not doing anything to better myself as a person and money is my last resort".

I have definitely not been scammed. Sorry to anyone who did, but as a barely-fur, I stay away from drama, leeches, and anything else I'd normally stay away from.
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From: jaidingo
2009-07-10 03:36 pm (UTC)
wow.
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[User Picture]From: keeyakitsune
2009-07-10 03:28 pm (UTC)
*Nominates for Not Cool Award?*
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[User Picture]From: wolfmare
2009-07-10 04:12 pm (UTC)
Seconded.
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From: jaidingo
2009-07-10 03:34 pm (UTC)
I'm glad I didn't donate, because at the time it seemed really weird. Why fly over to hang out with a bunch if people you don't know if you've only weeks to live? I'd want to be with family and friends that are close to me, personally.
What wouldve happened if he fell super ill during his visit?
Some people are selfish, childish liars with no sense of remorse and I think this Fandom has a disproportionately large number of them in it. Fuck that guy.
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[User Picture]From: fuzibuni
2009-07-10 03:49 pm (UTC)
Exactly >< I didn't donate, but I took time out at Furry Fiesta to hang out with him, and get to know him. He actually seemed like a real nice guy and it seemed like a shame we were going to lose him.

But what seemed... off to me is he could stay in suit longer than me!! Also, he looked real health besides being real thin >.>
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[User Picture]From: snapcat
2009-07-10 03:37 pm (UTC)

what the hell

he deleted (and is still deleting) all posts to his LJ. an hour ago it was at may of 2005 now his latest post is at April 2005
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[User Picture]From: snapcat
2009-07-10 03:50 pm (UTC)

Num8's latest journal entry..

05:47 pm
Say what you have to say,..

comment screened

ps: yes refund will be done.
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[User Picture]From: johnnyblanco
2009-07-11 01:56 am (UTC)

Re: Num8's latest journal entry..

Refund my ass.

You're going to refund the furs that were supposed to get me presents for my b-day? BULLSHIT you are.

People ASKED me what I wanted and I told them about him and to donate to his cause..

And you know what.. this.. fucking .. irks.. me.

Johnny
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[User Picture]From: hobbesdawg
2009-07-10 03:50 pm (UTC)
There has been evidence for quite a while it was BS, can't say for a fact of course but as soon as I found out someone else was with him on the same dime, and yet Num8 had made no special plans with anyone he was staying with if something happened....well...

Anyway we shall see.
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[User Picture]From: hobbesdawg
2009-07-10 04:25 pm (UTC)
Ill even admit I was taken in until I heard he got to the US and was having a fiend go along with him everywhere too..but then it was too late, and honestly whod believe you if you say "uh guys?". They'd condem you for dareing to say something like that on a dying mans last trip.

That said when my suspicion kicked in I decided not to donate, but did pass along grateful thanks to those who put up their house/flights/etc. Cos it still says they're may be some scum, but there are a shitload of good folk too.
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